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    Quote Originally Posted by psub View Post
    When the Eagles drafted Demps, wasn't Reid or someone ****ing QUOTED for saying, "Demps is not an NFL safety," and he would be a special teamer and a return man? I'm serious here...I remember something like this.

    So comparing any safety we draft to Demps instantly does not make much sense.


    He was drafted to be a return guy and I loved the pick as we needed a return guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jroll View Post
    Him expecting to be handed the job and not working says a lot about him as it is. If he breaks through thats great, but to say Allen who will be a rookie isn't better then Demps who has yet to show everything, and blew his chance due to a lack of effort is absurd. Allen is a hard working, and very good in coverage something this team needs back there.
    i guess it's a good thing winston justice was cut last offseason, since he hadn't shown anything in 3 years, either.


    demps has more talent and more experience. he'll win the job.
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    Nate Allen

    Safety

    SCOUTS GRADE 85

    Grading Scale80-89 Grade1st Round


    A feature player at the collegiate level that has an impact on the outcome of the game. He generally cannot be shut down by a single player and plays on a consistent level week in and week out. Most importantly, he shows the potential to create mismatches versus many opponents in the NFL. He rates in the top 5-to-10 at his position and is considered a second round draft prospect.

    S Florida
    School
    Big East
    Conference6'0"
    Height
    207 lbs
    Weight31.0"
    Arm Length
    9.4"
    Hand Size46
    Overall Rank
    4
    Positional Rank2009 NCAA FOOTBALL STATS
    TACKLES FUMBLES FORCED INT
    74 1 5
    2010 Draft Pick Info

    TEAM ROUND PICK
    PHI 2 5(37)

    Scouts Inc. Player Evaluations
    ProfileNewsVideoScouting CombineConversationOverall Football TraitsProduction 3 2006: (9/0) 2 tackles 2007: (12/12) 84 tackles, 2 TFL, 4 INT, 8 PBU, 1 FF, 3 FR 2008: (13/13) 53 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack, 1 INT; 1 catch, 16 yards
    Height-Weight-Speed 3 Ideal height, adequate bulk and functional top-end speed.
    Durability 3 Missed four games in 2006 with a quadriceps injury.
    Intangibles 2 High school honor roll student with a 3.6 grade point average. National Honors Society. Father played professional basketball in Europe.

    1 = Exceptional2 = Above average3 = Average4 = Below average5 = Marginal

    Safety Specific Traits

    Instincts/Mental Toughness 2 Diagnoses plays and locates the ball quickly. Rarely gets caught out of position in coverage. Flashes a strong punch and can re-route receivers at the line of scrimmage. Reads the quarterback's eyes and depth of drops but can lose track of the receiver in the process and allows too much separation at times.
    Run Support 3 Willing and steps up when he reads run. Shows good upper-body strength on film and flashes the ability to get off blocks, though he could improve consistency in this area. Above-average range but takes inconsistent pursuit angles. Not afraid to throw his body at ball carriers and can cut legs from under tight ends and bigger receivers, but he needs to do a better job of wrapping up. Slides off too many tackles at this point. Would struggle if asked to line up in the box on a consistent basis.
    Fluidity 2 Surprisingly fluid for his height. Opens hips well and can turn and run with slot receivers. Smooth getting in out of breaks. Excellent balance and can recover from false steps/contact with receivers.

    Closing Burst 2 Stays lows in backpedal and shows above-average closing speed when receivers catch the ball in front of him. Appears faster on film than timed speed suggests and can play a centerfielder-type role. Can cover the deep half. Recovery speed is adequate but not elite.

    Ball Skills 3 Generally looks the ball in but lets it get into his frame too often and is prone to dropping passes he should catch. Shows good sideline awareness and can keep both feet in bounds. Scooped up a fumble off the bounce during the second quarter of the 2007 West Virginia game. Looks to rip the ball out when gets to the ball carrier.

    1 = Exceptional2 = Above average3 = Average4 = Below average5 = Marginal

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    Good cover safety, not very physical, but drafting a S who can't cover is senseless. See Mays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steagles View Post
    i guess it's a good thing winston justice was cut last offseason, since he hadn't shown anything in 3 years, either.


    demps has more talent and more experience. he'll win the job.


    LOL Justice did show signs at times of being decent. Demps has shown zero, include any ability at all of being able to play safety at an NFL level. If you said Allen isn't better then Macho Harris, I'd say yeah maybe you're right. But Demps? LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by steagles View Post
    i guess it's a good thing winston justice was cut last offseason, since he hadn't shown anything in 3 years, either.


    demps has more talent and more experience. he'll win the job.
    yes, because all players finally become good in their 3rd or 4th years, right?

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    Quentin Demps just got another personal foul...

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    What I don't get are all the demonstrative statements declaring if someone is going to be good or a bust. The history of the draft is littered with can't-miss first rounders who go belly-up and less heralded selections being consistent Pro Bowl players. No one - Kiper, McShay, Kiper's hair - is that prescient. Sure, projecting is a fun little diversion, but to be so absolute in determining so many players' success in the NFL on Draft Day is foolish.

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    I got a great text by Les Bowen tonight.

    "Andy Reid sez Nate Allen can play safety AND corner. Perhaps if he can play both at once this evening's moves will make more sense."

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    He's also a smart kid, another good athlete who won't make idiotic mistakes in coverage, ie: Mays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steagles View Post
    from the other thread:


    he came into camp last year expecting to be handed the job, and macho beat him out in a competition he wasn't expecting.

    demps never got a chance to earn the job back since he had persistent hamstring and ankle injuries. 2010 will be his 3rd year in the NFL, and i think he'll break through, knowing his career is on the line.

    nate allen isn't better than him, and demps' experience gives him an edge.
    I disagree strongly. I wouldn't be surprised to see Allen win the FS job in camp. Not saying the light won't go on for Demps, but Allen's getting every opportunity to win the job, as it should be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowhuck View Post
    I got a great text by Les Bowen tonight.

    "Andy Reid sez Nate Allen can play safety AND corner. Perhaps if he can play both at once this evening's moves will make more sense."
    I think Les Bowen posts here. To read some of the drivel and **** he posts on Twitter, I wish he'd go back to covering the Flyers.

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